0:00 Welcome to Advance the Dream, our interactive community chat where we celebrate legacy makers and family heroes who are actively advancing the dream in the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. We talk about health, challenges, highlights, and heroes in an intergenerational and multicultural fashion to help his legacy of hope, duty, and equality live on. This bi-weekly series, powered by the Force for Health Network, is streamed live to Facebook, YouTube, and LinkedIn at eight a.m pacific time and eleven a.m eastern time then shared afterwards at advance the dream.com we welcome your comments from any platform you are watching from to join our discussion and encourage you to get engaged and to join our community for free Now let's meet our hosts, Dr. Robert Giglio and Lucy Howell from the Force for Health Network, alongside our strategic partner and National Community Director for Advance the Dream, Mr. Joshua Williams.
1:00 We hope you enjoy the show. Hello, hello, hello, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Advance the Dream, our biweekly interactive chat where we get to talk about heroes, highlights, and the issues, all in the spirit and the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King as it addresses disparities and opportunities to improve society. you know, the potential for better outcomes for everybody, right? Today's episode is called Election Over, Now What? Right? I'm joined here with my co-host, Dr. Robert Gillio, out of State College, Pennsylvania, and of course, our national coach and leader for Advance the Dream and also representing You Do Matter out of Florida, the panhandle, Gadsden County, Mr. Joshua Williams.
1:53 How are you guys doing this morning? How are you? Good morning, Lucy. Good morning, Rob. How you doing? Good morning. You know, as we were preparing for the show this weekend, I just feel like the last time we were on together, you know, we had talked about a... special election. I mean, I was trying to bring that graphic up. The last time we were on, we pulled together and said, hey, last call, get out to vote. Let's exercise the vote. Everybody voted and the people spoke, right? And so now I feel like people have had a chance to absorb, decompress.
2:36 And now I don't know, I just feel like we're kind of in this now what type of situation? I don't know. So I wanted to open it up with this concept of, you know, we've got some serious upcoming leaders, changes in leadership. And Rob, I don't know about you, but I just feel like I'm not sure what to think. You know, this full swing in the space of going from one ideology to another. And so wanted to maybe use this as a frame. Of course, coming up in the show, we'll go ahead and talk about, so we'll open this executive chat up with talking about this health.
3:25 It is Summer Cancer Awareness Month. So we're going to go ahead and get a medical minute in from Dr. Rob here in about ten minutes. from Rachel Levine, Admiral Rachel Levine, MD to Robert Kennedy, Jr. Shifting and navigating this leadership change at the Health and Human Services, a national US agency. I figured we could go around the table and get some thoughts on this. Well, you know, it's, you have to grow. and adapt with your perspectives over time and deal with things you can or can't control.
4:18 Of interest, I knew Richard Levine when he was an adolescent psychologist at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center where I was doing work as a pulmonologist. And then years later, I was involved with She, as Rachel Levine, as the Secretary of Health and Human Services, so to speak, for the state of Pennsylvania, where I was doing work with childhood obesity and the effects of obesity on psychological issues. I had a great deal of respect for Dr. Levine, but to be honest with you, she is the first trans person I've ever known.
5:06 Met or worked with and in a role at the J.C. Blair Hospital. And as director of population health, I work directly with she and her deputy secretary on population health value based care payment schemes for helping to create an incentive for everyone to be as healthy as possible And she motivated and educated me to help guide the Force for Health network to look at what the individual could do as a person with an illness or a person with a body that might be able to prevent an illness, as a person that lived with a family member with an illness, as a person in a community building buildings or providing food in that community or other policies, et cetera.
6:04 How could you win as a community? She was a brilliant visionary in her role in health and human services. She wasn't able to pull a lot of that off, unfortunately. And that little town in rural Pennsylvania absolutely did not pull it off and sold out to the highest bidder when they couldn't manage the hospital the way that might've made most sense. They turned down a grant to be a pilot project in this program. So I loved Rachel Levine, but I hated the fact that things didn't get done the way she visualized.
6:45 Now, going the other way, I hate what Robert Kennedy visualizes. I hope he doesn't get it done in many ways, and I'm counting on the individual person and on the local doctors and local communities to make sure that their kids get immunized, to make sure that they're looking out for those of us with social determinants of health issues as not necessarily a weakness of a personality, but a weakness of a community. So we have to focus hyperlocal and advance health literacy as much as possible. Do I feel strongly about this?
7:26 I actually use the word clown car to describe some of the appointments that were being made by the president-elect. I give them the benefit of the doubt. I'll see what they do. I'll have to adapt like I had to adapt to Richard Levine becoming Rachel. I'm an independent, not Republican, not Democrat. I'm an independent, but I'm a Northern white guy in rural Pennsylvania. And I have to adapt to the way people on the left and the right see things. But I think it all comes down to that learn it and live it for the individual to be resilient in this time of change.
8:08 All right, I'm going to shut up because this is not my show. I'm just a co-host. Well, you know, Josh, you know, like I said, if we go around the circle, Rob, you are our chief medical officer, right? I just represent the standard Main Street boots on ground mama, right? Kind of your average citizen that's wanting to lean in and say, who am I supposed to listen to? And where am I going to be able to respond? make some health decisions because it is a big, big swing from a Fauci immunization stuff to something in the middle to now somebody who is known to say that he doesn't believe in immunizations.
8:58 And so, yes, there's been bloat around the pharmaceutical industry. And so I don't know if the truth is somewhere in the middle or what. Josh, I mean, you're sitting there, you know, your role as a dad, right, as a leader, how do you respond to this? Or do you? Do you even care? Does the fact that Health and Human Services leadership even come into your life and world and play at all? Do you have a response on? Well, it comes into all of our lives to tell you the truth, Lucy, from the standpoint, but this has been politicized.
9:37 I think everything has been politicized, not to a point where none of us truly understands what's going on. You know, when you look at the different opportunities, when we say different appointments, I expect someone to be appointed. I wouldn't go to the doctor expecting my car to get fixed. I wouldn't go to the bricklayer to expect him to build a frame. It's like everything is so politicized now that it doesn't make a difference. It's whoever I want or whoever I could support or put in that position, they can do the job.
10:20 And I think that... there should be some type of historical purpose for a person being appointed to anything. You should at least know what you're being appointed to or what you're planning on doing or have some type of history or path that you have taken to provide this type of services to the people of the United States. Yeah, beyond loyalty. Loyalty versus credentials, training, experience. we're looking at multi-billion and in some cases, trillion dollar budgets. If we look at military, uh, if we look at, uh, um, department of justice and what we spend on variety of things, this is not just health.
11:08 I have five daughters and four granddaughters, and I look at women's healthcare, reproductive, uh, healthcare access as a real, as a real problem that this, um, Supreme Court and now with the current administration on a local basis, it's up to the states to try and make a difference. I have daughters looking at jobs and where they're going to locate. Does this surgeon want to live in this state versus that state to raise her daughter? Our conversations we are literally having around the kitchen table, so to speak, via telephone, even though I'm not in the same city as my daughter.
11:51 It's... It begs for people to take personal responsibility, get as knowledgeable as possible so they can make the best decisions on policies, not just their health care, not just as they are on juries, et cetera. Well, you know, I think that's why this whole title of, uh, elections over now, what, because I feel like, um, we, and this is why exactly we're doing this show, right. So that we can have a platform for discussion. You know, I find it difficult to even have conversations within my own family.
12:32 You know, I kind of sit in the middle of saying, okay, well, He's our president now, and we have to have comfort and confidence in some degree of being protected as citizens. There's these changes and these decisions taking place, but I keep getting in, quite frankly, some debates and some confrontational debates, even with my own partner, my own husband. And he is happy to come on the show and state his position. But I just wanted to start talking about this. And I think that we need to continue talking about this in an unpoliticized view and filter and lens so that we can share about some of the feelings of, wow, I just feel a little uneasy, although.
13:23 Because we've been concentrating on the science of health. Right. And that's what I think I'm hearing you say, Rob, is that we really got to go to our inner circle right on our logo up here, where the force for health really starts from owning your own health and understanding your own health literacy needs for yourself, your family, first and foremost, and being as knowledgeable as as possible. It's not just the science of health. It's the science of population health. So there's the anatomy, the physiology.
13:51 How your body's built, how it works, what can go wrong, then how to deal with the doctor, how to deal with the social worker, et cetera, but also how to prioritize and access things like transportation, food, adequate housing, how to create a social structure around you, that second and third circle, to support you on a local basis when you get sick, when you get mentally ill, when you lose your job, or when your neighbor needs a wheelchair ramp, How do you surround yourself? Everything's local.
14:25 And it gets so local. And I want to comment on one of the things you said. This is a place to talk about things. This is also a place to listen. And the issue with conversations is that I think many folks have been repeating lines and spitting them out as quickly and as loud as possible and not listening to arguments and or precedent and or feelings. on the other side. I know people I love in this household, perhaps, or at least in my greater family network, have voted for people I disagree with.
15:04 And on both sides, if you want to see someone vicious, talk to my ninety-nine-year-old mother, who grew up in New York, who was a social worker, and ask her certain opinions. And it's a sort of thing, I can't get a word in edgewise to to discuss, not argue, but even try and discuss with my mother on one side and my brother in law, a federal agent on the other side of so extreme that I can't even I don't even want to see him to have a dinner conversation. It's that bad sometimes. I know. And the holidays are coming up and train myself to listen.
15:42 And I encourage anyone watching this. How well are you listening to the other side? You don't need to agree. but you at least need to know where they stand and why. Yes or why, not just the where. I think that the next Advance the Dream broadcast, we should have a segment on Civil Discourse and almost like help train. Where are you getting this from? You're just getting out this rhetoric from the left. We're not practicing or role playing now. I know that's where you're going. Josh, before we kind of lean into helping us increase our health literacy with the spotlight on stomach cancer awareness what are your kind of closing thoughts around here post-election with you know put your alpha hat on put your dad hat on put your african-american male hat on you know what are your perspectives um ten days out Well, the election is over with Lucy and Doctor Rob and you know there's nothing we can do about the election results.
16:48 What we have to do now is continue our own self sufficiency as it relates to getting better within ourselves. Something that we have already been doing something we have been doing since the beginning of time and that is continuing to do what we know is right or what we feel is right. Regardless who the. who the captain is and leading the ship. We know that health is important. And even in the words of Dr. King, we know this. So let's continue to do what we know. We know that we need to provide equal rights.
17:24 We know that we need to have adequate health care. for our seniors and our young people. We know this. So let's continue to push those efforts to try to get that. That's all, you know, politics out the window, who won is who won, who is leading is who is leading, but it's still work for us to do. And no matter how much or who gets into the driver's seat, we still have to do that particular work. So our work does not stop with the change of the guard. We have to continue to push and challenge people to become better.
18:04 As Doc would say, we have to continue to learn it, we have to continue to live it, and we have to continue to share it. That's right. I think you used a term there, and I'm just going to play with this a little. Adequate health care, we need to transition and not get from a victim mentality to adequate self-care. It's okay to take care of yourself mentally and physically so you can be there for others, despite who the leadership is. I mean, I grew up with, let's just call it extensive white privilege, even though I didn't come from a wealthy family.
18:44 I came from, I'm a white kid that got educated by public schools in the suburbs. and got one of the best educations you can imagine a person on earth can get. I'm just so privileged in my lifetime. But I have to focus now on my self-care. Whereas, Josh, many of you and your ancestors for decades or centuries have been on the outs of who's in leadership. This is a new thing for me, all right? But it's been a centuries-long issue, I think, for many people in a minority setting or stage in this country.
19:25 Blacks, Latinos, Asian Americans, immigrant status. It takes a hundred years to hear in leadership. And so I need to get out of the victim mentality and get into healthcare and self-care. Doing what feels right for me in my community despite who's the leaders, I like that a lot. Doing what feels right. And on that note, because I do play the role of timekeeper here, let's go ahead and learn more, you know, in terms of health literacy. So November is stomach cancer awareness month. I almost kind of played with the title of like, you know, ensuring a healthy gut to navigate these changes.
20:09 I was trying to like, because this really is going to be a gut check, right? But let's go ahead. Let's go ahead and bring up... oops let's go ahead and bring up your medical minute here all right and we will learn about it prostate cancer prostate cancer is the second most common cancer Why that video is double playing here. If we can go grab the real one, we'll go ahead and play it at the end. But I don't want to spend much time more here trying to fix the issue. Let's just go straight into let's save that till the end.
21:15 Rob, if you could pull that right video up so that we can share screen at the end. Let's go ahead and do that. Yeah. You know what you're looking at, though? That's that's that's an error. I think on my part of labeling a video with the wrong graphic. So I'll take responsibility for that. And if you don't play it now, we'll put a link to it later, but I'll get off camera at some point here and find that. Okay, perfect. So let's go into the second thing that we wanted to talk about, which was, you know, did you guys watch the Mike Tyson fight last night?
21:51 At all? No. Yes. I looked at a little of it, yes. I mean, let's just talk about this for a second. I mean, a fifty... eight year old mike tyson stepping into the ring with a twenty seven year old right um I watched the whole thing um I thought it was interesting I think netflix on my big screen it was glitching I don't know if it's because the whole world was trying to watch in it was actually streamed live on netflix for free I assumed it was a pay-per-view so I didn't even think about trying to go find it Had to end up watching it on my phone because that was the clearest broadcast version of it.
22:37 But just starting with the age deal was a trip to think that somebody older than me, a baby senior, was going to step into a boxing ring at the highest point and fight a twenty seven year old. Now, of course, he if anybody didn't watch it, he did not. last the whole eight rounds, you know, he had some moments of brilliance. And then it was a decision for Jake Paul. I mean, it was obvious that he didn't have the energy. But I really didn't want to talk about the performance. I wanted to talk about I'm having technical issues here.
23:21 Absolutely nothing. I wanted to talk about this. Well, and you're so This fourteen-year-old girl was interviewing Mike Tyson before the fight. And is Rob, we lost Rob, is interviewing Mike Tyson before the fight. And she asked him about legacy. And let's just watch this right now and then we'll come back and discuss it, okay? Stand by. into the ring for this fight, you are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age to see the legend Mike Tyson in the ring for the first time. So after such a successful career, what type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done?
24:03 Well, I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy. I think that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's just some word everybody grabbed onto. Someone said that word and everyone grabbed onto the word, so now it's used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm just passing through. I'm gonna die and it's gonna be over. Who cares about legacy after that? What a big ego, so I'm gonna die. I want people to think that I'm this, I'm great. No, we're nothing.
24:28 We're just dead. We're dust. We're absolutely nothing. Our legacy is nothing. Well, thank you so much for sharing that. That is something that I have not heard before someone say that as an answer. Can you really imagine somebody saying, I want my legacy to be this way? You're dead. True. Do you think somebody really wants to think about you? What's the adaption? I think I want people to think about me when I'm gone. Who the fuck cares about me when I'm gone? Or my kids, maybe, or grandkids. True.
24:59 Who the fuck cares? And again, thank you so much for sharing that. You know, I saw that and I immediately, because of course the whole spirit of the show is elongating a legacy of an incredible leader, right? I lived my life trying to feel what can I do to leave a legacy? So it was just such a strange, you know, response. And Josh, when I was talking to you about this yesterday, you offered up a different perspective. So I said, we have to talk about this on the show. I immediately, so many people on the comments were saying, oh, he's a legend, you know.
25:41 And my immediate thought was, what a depressive way to live. What a sad statement to feel like you are living your life without purpose or the fact that you might want to leave a legacy. That was my response to it. Don't know if that's too harsh. But Josh, you know, you had kind of some different opinions on that. So let's talk about this. Someone Mike Tyson whether or not he deserves to be in some type of influential role He is he is a sports icon and people are listening to him and hats off to that girl who?
26:13 Interviewed him because she really handled herself Beautifully and professional I thought but how do you react to Mike's interview? That was you know, like I said, it was different Lucy. It was different but once again you know, there's different strokes for different folks. I don't think his comments were as negative as some people may have looked at him. How he feels about himself as being a legacy, there may be some attributes to that that we don't understand. And that's what I was saying yesterday from the standpoint.
26:54 Some people do feel like, well, you know, I'm just a man. I'm just here. Don't put me up on a pedestal. You know, and you use the narrative from the standpoint, you look at LeBron James, his legacy. Well, LeBron James is different than a Michael Jordan, totally, I think. When you're looking at those two people, Michael Jordan is not one to want to crown himself. LeBron, if he had the opportunity, he would. And he does, and I think he's capable of being that type of legacy. But some people don't want to be seen as that.
27:34 And I can understand that a little bit when you get to a certain platform as a legacy or someone to look up to. No, just live your own life. Be the best that you can be. But like I said, I didn't take it as a negative point, but once again, like you stated, no matter how he looks at it, He's going to be considered a legacy of what he has done in his life. Or at least an influence. Exactly. And an influencer to a whole generation who has kind of idolized him but not seen him. And so I just kind of sort of felt like it was an opportunity lost.
28:15 But, you know, you said something yesterday saying, you know, you don't... you don't see the perspective from which he says that because of the things that have happened to him, the things that he's had to endure. And like we say, just because you play a sport doesn't mean that you are a icon or a leader, right? It just happens to put eyeballs on you. And there are people that don't want that. Charles Barkley is like the perfect example of like, don't don't put me as a example of what to do. I'm an imperfect man and I do things that you probably don't want to tell your kids, you know, and that stuff.
28:50 But I just thought it was harsh to maybe have that. Rob, you know, we had this conversation yesterday and, you know, share some of your thoughts about rewatching that video. And but I think you may have seen the whole thing for the first time just now. I just saw the video for the first time. I saw the results of the fight on the news, and I learned that the winner won forty million and the loser won twenty million. Yeah. So at fifty eight, would I have been willing to be knocked out and potentially die to make twenty million dollars for my family?
29:25 Hell yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So looking at it as a business proposition, almost an embarrassment I'm so depressed and potentially suicidal of what I've done with my life just beat the heck out of me and give me twenty million dollars thank you and I'm set for life and so is my legacy of the next twenty generations of my family wealth um unless you're an idiot you can turn that twenty million into two hundred million in about five years uh once you're at that level um unless you claim bankruptcy every other company you start but that we won't go there the The thing is, I think some of us that aren't endowed with a stellar body.
30:11 Excuse me. You know, I was born with some congenital issues and I've been overweight and I've done the best I can with this body. So I'm no sports star. And I tried in high school and college, but I spent more time on the bench than most athletes ever have. The point I'm getting at, though, is you can be a legacy and have a legacy even just as a father, as a brother, as a wife, as a sister, as a husband. And you can leave behind what my mother used to say to us is, was it a good day? And a good day for her was, did you make the world a better place a little bit for someone before you went to bed?
30:59 That's a legacy. I'm sorry that man doesn't view it that way, and he views legacy at a much higher level. I'll take little increments of the gift we are given to have this body and this brain in this world born in this century. We have to work on protecting the gift and gifting forward. What we give forward is our legacy. If on my tombstone it said he was a force for health, that's all I'd want. That's it. That philosophy was in a couple other people. On occasion, they made a couple healthier decisions.
31:39 That's a legacy. Or maybe they didn't have that heart attack down the road because they never started smoking because I helped influence them. That's a legacy. Well, let's now kind of lean into the third bullet point of what we wanted to take, because now if we look at Snoop Dogg, right? Wow. Olympics, the voice, the fact that he's actually coming to Tucson, you know, my community here at the end of the month, because he is the new sponsor of our Arizona Bowl. And again, we have this conversation around and it's interesting how people have these strong opinions about who he is.
32:19 I want I want us to watch this and then I want us to go ahead and to talk about can somebody change? You know, how is it possible to maybe have a different perspective on somebody? So let's go ahead and watch this. We need to see more black kids like this. In the beginning, when I first came out, I was a representation of the wrong side of what we look like. I want to commend your parents, your grandparents, and everybody for raising you the right way. This is what a young black kid looks like.
32:54 Every day you try to pick up all the pieces. All the memories, they somehow never leave you. Nobody, nobody, nobody sees you. Nobody, nobody would believe. But God only knows what you've been through God only knows what they say about you God only knows how it's killing you But there's a kind of love that God only knows God only knows what you've been through God only knows what they say about you God only knows the real you They're misunderstood and the ones to blame. What if we can start over?
33:48 We can start over. We can start over. Because God only knows. So, um, I think that it has been so interesting because, um, We have our opinion on certain people and whether or not they change throughout life. I've been very involved with the Arizona Bowl since almost the beginning, helping activate the tailgate. We had a bumpy ride the last three years because we had a sponsor, Barstool Sports, that came in very controversial based on certain things that the leaders have said and their machismo look at things.
35:13 And it's interesting how people either loved or hated that. Now we've got Snoop Dogg in the house representing it. And I see a lot of love on that. But then there's still this pot smoking gangster, you know, rapper type of mentality. But the more I learn about him and his commitment and give back, to the youth through sports and community and being publicly stating things like that, that when I was your age, that's the wrong type of image. That's not what we want. I don't know, I just started crying, honestly, when I saw that.
35:47 So let's go around the table really quick and react. I'm gonna start with you, Mr. White dude in rural Pennsylvania with an opinion. How does watching something like that affect you? Who's Snoop Dogg? Okay. That's where I was with the Olympics. I'm just, you know, Josh laughs, but, you know, I've got my Elvis and Temptation soundtrack from my youth. And then suddenly, four years later, it's skipped and I'm still listening to the same music. I totally missed the Snoop Dogg success, notoriety, um, history.
36:32 And suddenly here's this person everywhere in every scene in the Olympics. And it's like, get this guy out of here, interview Serena Williams, his father, maybe, or interview, um, uh, a coach or get him out of here. I don't, I, I, I just didn't get it. Okay. And so now we jump ahead and Lucy's in this mode of Snoop Dogg in the Arizona bowl. And it's like, Get this guy out of here. And she says, why? He's doing these good things. And I'm thinking, yeah, I have this vague notion that he's someone from the past.
37:08 This is the level of ignorance I have. It just, I'm in a Richard Rachel Levine moment where I have to adapt. Well, so watching that clip, does that change it or do you care? Oh, that clip had me at the edge of tears here also. It's wonderful. And I think Hakeem Fordham, the young man who's singing, is someone I'd like to like download that song somewhere if I could. But having Snoop Dogg say that in a public venue in that situation is great. But I don't, you're asking me to react? I don't know enough of the context of his past to know how wonderful a moment that was.
37:57 Or how hard that must've been for him or what he's contributed or what damage he has done. I, I look at, I look at bill Cosby, someone I'm more familiar with. I'm just Northern white guy. Okay. I hate to say that, but that's, that's, I've been identified on that now. All right. But bill Cosby was in my living room, probably the same time Snoop dog was very popular and bill Cosby went out of his way to say young black men pull up your pants. Don't behave that way. The gangster thing is not the thing.
38:32 And then he turned out to be a guy that lost credibility. He went the other way, which devastated many people. So I don't know. I totally missed the Snoop Dogg phenomenon. I think that it was the perfect example because I think what this post-election phase that we find ourselves in, we all do have to lean in a little bit and just be more listening and more open to the accepting of different perspectives. Again, Josh, I go straight to you. How do you react to, is that the first time that you'd seen that clip?
39:12 No, no, no. I looked at the clip again last night. But unlike Dr. Rob, I had not been sheltered. And I do know a little bit about him. Mr. Broadus, the good thing about that though, Lucy, that for some people, you know, when you first look at a person and see his image, Sometimes we begin to label a person by their image. This is not the first time that, as everyone would call him, Snoop Dogg, has reached out to do something like this. He plays against the role in a lot of different circumstances, but that does not define him on who he is.
40:02 And that's the thing that some people do when we start to begin to label people. And sometimes it's kind of hard to not label them by what you see them do. Everybody thought that Denzel Washington, he wouldn't have never received an Oscar if he wouldn't have played a gangster. in which he did, but that's just him playing that gangster did not define him or who he was. And it didn't surprise me that he would do that because he has always done it. That's how he has pretty much lived his life. But we have seen a different component of it on another side.
40:50 And sometimes we have a tendency to try to judge that person by that particular view. And like I said, so it didn't surprise me that he was doing that. It's not going to surprise me if the young man Jaheim does not win, that Snoop Dogg will have something or somebody else to pick him up on a label. I am sure that will happen. You talked legacy before, and I think this is a great example of someone looking at a situation saying, what do I want to be known for? And I'm really encouraged and inspired by Snoop Dogg's recent activities, the more I learn about him.
41:32 And I'm proud to help support whatever he's doing with the Arizona Bowl, with our other Forestry Health activities at the Arizona Bowl. But that's legacy. And that's someone taking an initiative and saying, not just what I want to be known for, I just want to do something. If I'm known for it, God bless me. But just giving that kid that compliment in that venue. And I think watching the young singer, Hakeem, you know what he reminded me of? He reminded me of every single young student that you've brought to the table, Josh, that have kind of been going through You Do Matter.
42:11 Just the ability to surround young people. not just black men, young boys that kind of eight to fourteen year old range with mentorship and guidance so that they can navigate through the tough times of middle school and high school with Anchor, right, and purpose. I, again, get a little almost emotional because I've just been so impressed with the young, eighteen year olds, twenty one year olds, you know, twelve year olds that you've brought to the table introducing into our sessions, U.S. state representatives and being able to hold themselves so professionally.
42:57 And, you know, I think that as we navigate this post-election change, we got to set ego aside. We have to be able to listen. I'm just going to keep coming back to that. Listen and not label. Right. Rob said something earlier and I was like, oh, I'm going to kick him under. But that's OK, because this is literally what this platform is for. Clown car. when you said that it just was triggering to me and but it's how you feel right and so like I can't have and again I'm not saying anything that my husband will get mad at but you know when I start defining a position and defending a position I automatically get labeled as trumpster you know I'm not a Trumpster.
43:43 I'm an independent trying to have a clear thought and reasoning based conversation with you. Right. So both sides have to just lighten up off of those quick labels and start listening and moving towards the middle. No, you make a good point. And I was I'm basically saying that in reaction to. The shock, the shock and surprise of. who's getting appointed for what positions and what their backgrounds are as the person, for instance, who's getting my, my former high school, um, fellow alumnus, the current attorney general who spent his entire life in the legal system, uh, being replaced by someone who spent the last four years being investigated.
44:36 Um, uh, it is just, yeah. To me, it's going to take some time to see how he handles that job and how, whether he, so a label is a mistake and I apologize for that, but it's how I felt. Yeah, no. It's how I reacted viscerally. But I think listening and seeing, but I'm taking it down to self-health, help everyone on a local level because that's where everyone reads locally yeah um because we got all look out for each other on the small scale because I'm worried I'm worried that on the large scale the inefficiencies of government government programs um or fear of of retribution and other such things may really affect things that you got to look out for on a local level um Were you able to bring up and find the stomach cancer medical minute by chance?
45:44 Yeah, it's in the private chat. If you look on your, open your chat. Oh, perfect. I sent it up an hour ago. Okay, perfect. I believe that's the right one. I played the first thirty seconds on my computer. But it may have been fine. But I think that the concept here, stomach cancer is one of those ones that sneaks up on you, sometimes without symptoms. but sometimes the symptoms people ignore. Okay, good. Let's go ahead and transition, because I want to get some health literacy impact in here, and I want to share this screen.
46:19 We'll go straight, full screen, and let's play this. Stomach cancer, gastric cancer. It accounts for over... Oops. Diagnosed late. Let's try to do- Oh my gosh. Who's the producer on this show controlling the panel? Can't hear it. More advanced. Well, what should you do about it? What should you ask your doctor? If you experience persistent digestive issues, especially if accompanied by weight loss or unusual discomfort, talk to your doctor. Screening options are limited. But early consultation and an early look with a scope or a CAT scan or both can lead to prompt testing and improved chances of early diagnosis and treatment.
47:49 Learn it, live it, and share it. Be a force for health. If in doubt, ask about it. Can you hear me? Yes. I can. I don't know what happened there. It's just a technical thing where we had two videos with the same label and name on it and the sounding come through. But the bottom line is it's not an obvious thing like something growing on your skin like skin cancer where you can see it. It's vague. And it's one of those things where with persistent symptoms, don't just let the doctor pat you on the head and say, honey, just a little heartburn or just a little stomach pain.
48:29 And then you're vomiting blood or something when they finally look down. If you have persistent discomfort, especially if it's accompanied by weight loss, ask your doctor, could this be stomach cancer? A quick look with a scope, early diagnosis. If you catch it when it's small, it's removed, you're done with it. If it's through the stomach and into the lymph nodes, it's a very, very challenging cancer with very major surgeries in order to treat it. So be an advocate for yourself. Keep asking, could this be the problem?
49:04 And rule it out. There's not a good blood test for it. You gotta be an advocate. Yeah, sorry about the technical difficulty there. Of course, these are over at theforceforhealth.com. You can actually earn a badge by watching a medical minutes on the condition and also a three-sixty tour. We've got some couple minutes left. Do you by chance have the three-sixty human explore tour on cancer product? I don't have it queued up, and I don't want to take the time to... uh well or like um I I don't have I don't have it queued up here I haven't I haven't queued up so let's go ahead and um please do yeah I don't want to be the guy with the technical screen sharing issue I'll let you have that problem okay perfect bring it up I think that this will hit the spot because it is a six minute long video.
50:14 We did get a late start, but let's go ahead and consume this so we can feel like we transfer that information on Summit Cancer Awareness Month. So give me a second. And we'll go right here. Hi, it's Dr. Rob with the Human Three Sixty Explorer. Let's just take a brief look at stomach cancer as one of the topics of the month for awareness. And to understand stomach cancer, let's make sure we understand the stomach and where it is in terms of the digestive system. As I zoom in and zoom out, I'm able to view the male body system called digestion, and I'm rotating sideways to have you understand that the digestive system starts at the mouth and the salivary glands, which makes some enzymes to help moisten the food like saliva and enzymes like amylase to help you swallow it down the esophagus, which is a pipe that ends up into this thing called the stomach.
51:33 All right. The stomach, if I zoomed in a little bit there, you can see that the stomach empties into the small intestines with something called the duodenum, the jejunum, and the ileum, and then eventually into the large colon. And you eventually digested food as it transverses all the way around from the small intestine into the large intestine, across the top, underneath the stomach, and then down all the way to the anal area where you poop it out. All right, you see where it's at? There's things like the liver and the gallbladder and the pancreas that are situated near the stomach and the jejunum and duodenum where different liquids and fluids to help with digestion are housed.
52:22 But let's go, and if you notice, when you get inside of our system, over here, you can pick a system, but once you're in a system, you can also go back and go to the course about that specific system and look up a topic, and here I've looked up stomach cancer. So if we were to look at the stomach in cross-section, you have an image that looks something like this, where the esophagus comes in, there's these folds in the stomach, and this is a muscle that churns and churns and churns and mixes up the food.
53:01 So if we looked at what is stomach cancer, now that we know where the stomach is and what it does, let's go find that image and see if we can visualize this a little clearer. So what I've done is I've gone over here on the right side. Actually, it's the left side, depending on how I'm looking at screens and things. Into the menu on the digestive system, I found stomach cancer, clicked on it, and it brought up this image. And this image, if you notice, has that inside of the stomach there. I'm going to make it a little larger there by clicking on that box in the lower right.
53:40 It was over here. But as I look at that stomach, there's something abnormal that seems to be growing there. And it's growing in three dimensions. Three dimensions. So it grows inside the stomach and potentially through the muscle wall of the stomach. to the outside of the stomach. Why is this significant? Inside the stomach, if it is defective and leaks a little bit of blood, that blood can be found in the stool. So when you do a stool test for blood, when your doctor sometimes will take some stool, or when they do a rectal exam on the glove, whatever stool is on that, and they put a drop of this chemical on it, it can detect blood in the stool is not normal, And that's a sign potentially of stomach cancer or more likely colon cancer or inflammatory disease of the colon.
54:36 The stomach with a mass in the stomach also can block things off. Remember I said this thing chews and chews and mushes your food around and mixes it up like a blender almost. It doesn't spin, but it just keeps squeezing your food and breaking it down and letting those enzymes work and making a mash. out of the solid food, it becomes more like a mush or a mash. But anyways, it can sometimes block the flow of that happening. And you can have food staying in your stomach or getting stuck and an uncomfortable feeling.
55:12 If it invades a nerve, it can hurt. When it goes to the outside, sometimes it can spread to adjacent organs and cause stomach cancer, not just to stage zero, with a tiny little guy that you can see maybe when you're looking down with a scope or stage one or two or three like this where it's through the wall, but stage four is where it spreads literally to the lymph nodes or to local structures. So as we think about stomach cancer, it's part of your digestive system. It can present with a sense of fullness, pain, discomfort, and sometimes with bleeding, such as a bleeding ulcer, sometimes with vomiting blood.
56:00 So these are all things to be aware of. Stomach cancer is more common in some cultures, in Japan, for instance, than in America, potentially based on types of foods or maybe chemicals. I'm not sure. But the point is understanding the three-sixty anatomy of stomach cancer was the goal of this lesson. I hope that's helped you. Don't forget, once you're in Three Sixty Human, click to those menu items and explore further. You get points for everything you're doing in Reality Health Games, but you're also getting points here in advancing your own understanding in health literacy.
56:44 So again, I thought, and let me just stop that video so we're good. And I call Rob, my doctor, Mr. Rogers of medicine, because I feel like him at the controls of our three-sixty human explorer and explaining these conditions and the anatomy really does enlightened and improve my knowledge of myself, right? Our three sixty human explorer challenge is kind of like, how well do you really know your inner self? And so I thought that was an excellent explanation right now. I know a little bit more about digestion.
57:27 It's November. We've got holidays coming up. It's interesting that All the mental or the health awareness months are gut, stomach, you know, healthy gut month and and stomach cancer month. So thanks for doing that, Josh. Looking up at the sky there, but any comments on Dr. Rob's human explorer tour there? I think that's a great idea. I want to talk to him offline about some things that. regarding that stomach that I spoke with him about earlier about my dad, you know, the conversation we had about that.
58:01 I still want to revisit that with you because he's still having some challenges in that area. And I consider him, Lucy, to be my Mr. Rogers as well, too, because that's at least one step I don't have to financially compensate somebody for. No, no. So I'm in my physician clown car, I think, in that regard. So that's I follow. I think going forward, I invite anybody with an interest in any of those one thousand models to join at advancedthedream.com, become an ambassador, get access to those things, and then join me in frequent webinars, live Zoom calls like this where you'll be in the room asking questions.
58:47 We'll go over things inside that Force for Health Academy of which you can earn badges where there's literally a thousand different ones on human anatomy. But join our community. Scan that barcode or that QR code that was just there. Glad to call any time, Josh, but anyone else, get in the Force for Health and just message me inside of the feed and say, hey, do something on, someone just asked me about cataracts the other day. Now I got to get smarter on cataracts. I'm not an eye expert, but I'm an expert at becoming an expert.
59:23 And I'm trying to explain things in a simple fashion because auto mechanics and art and woodworking were my favorite courses in high school when I wasn't listening to Snoop Dogg. Well, Rob, you're so funny. To bring it back to cataracts, you know, this whole concept of reality health is like you don't want to be ill-prepared or not prepared after the fact. So, for example, the conversation I was having with you yesterday is within the last seventy two hours, I have found three people very, very close to me.
1:00:01 That now need cataract surgery and I as the wife you know daughter um daughter-in-law type of deal I have I don't know anything about cataracts I wish I did I am now challenging myself to learn more so that I can be more supportive for my family and as they go through that stuff. So yes, I tapped Dr. Ra. I said, listen, I don't know anything about cataracts. Can you do some human explorer tours for us? Because what is the occurrence rate of cataract need and surgery? I'll tell you what, I had dinner with my dad last night and he, Yes, he's got Medicaid, I mean, you know, Medicare, and he's got great insurance.
1:00:44 But perhaps somebody in the circle doesn't, you know, but she could go to the Philippines and have it for free. Like, it's these interesting things of like, if you have cataract surgery in this country, this country or this country, what are your options? And how much is it going to cost you? I just think that's fascinating. And why we're trying to do this reality health games with specialties topics within the advance the dream. Yeah. Just a word of a word of disclaimer here is I'm not anybody's doctor right now.
1:01:17 OK, but I am your health educator. That's right. And I will share with you high quality education and sometimes entertainment and even playing a game beyond the leaderboard of who's done as many of these as possible. But use what use what you've learned, apply it to your life, but then share your inquiry. your informed questions, share it with your doctor, your provider, to get the best advice for your situation. But join us. See that QR code? Click there, get started. Thanks for watching. Lucy, I... Final thoughts around the table.
1:01:58 Let's go for it. Closing up our hour. Josh. I would just say let's continue to enhance our own knowledge and become as safe as we could about our body and our health and social issues around our country. I'd say listen more and don't be as quick to make a cute little remark making fun of a political appointment or other issues. So listen and understand the why people feel certain ways. and expand your horizons. And since you took mine, Rob, I'm going to go ahead and deflect to my old standard that it's okay to remind myself every single week to, if you see something, say something.
1:02:48 So you may be within your family, friends, or a group. and you're witnessing perhaps some of the stuff that we're saying, this quick judge and label, step on in, play that moderator, and try and coach them through this interesting landscape that we find ourselves in through change. Final words, go to advanceadream.com or theforceforhealth.com and start joining for free. We've got some really cool, exciting challenges coming up. Reality Health Games really pits individuals, group leaders, and communities up against each other.
1:03:26 We've got a great season that's kicking off January first, but we're currently recruiting for group leaders. and certain ambassadors to do the fifty four mile Selma march. Right. To come in, start joining and doing legacy books, earning badges and really getting some advanced dream communities up against each other in the reality health games at the Force for Health. Thanks for joining everybody. We will see you in two weeks with a civil discourse. One oh one lesson. OK, take care. See you later.
1:04:04 Bye-bye.
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